Sunday 3 January 2010

Glory realm experiences

Question asked:

What other things are you aware of that is part of the redemption available in Christ that most Christians are not aware of?I have heard of phenomenal things. Do you know Jason Westerfield? His testimonies are amazing. So also Ana Mendez Farell, who even went to heaven to the room where languages are kept to receive english for her ministry. There is also a whole list of others I got to know about and even met some who operate from the throne room with testimonies that is so "wow"!!!!!!!!!!That is operating in the glory realm, the holy of holies, from the Throne room, where we are supposed to live 24/7.There are Christians these days that even walk through walls like Jesus did, some gets transported like Phillip, and many is so much in the third heaven with supernatural encounters like St. Paul that it has become part of normal living.There are those who shows gemstones they received from heaven. This church is one example http://m.youtube.com/watch?desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DY_qb2OApNMw&v=Y_qb2OApNMw&gl=GBThere are supernatural money multiplication, supernatural weight-loss, supernatural gold dust, feathers, etc.Some churches experience wind. Some oil.Why would God give some of this at some places, and at other places where people are also desperately hungry for Him he decides not to...I don't quite understand why...or what is blocking it some places...perhaps its sin...perhaps its impurities that blocks God's move...perhaps its inpurities that blocks me, that is maybe why fasting is so necessary, but why is the blood of Jesus not enough? Or perhaps it is faith in the blood of Jesus that is required, and fasting increases faith. But why can't faith then just be received as a grace gift also...and how does the choices of man and the Sovereignty of God work together here?

Answer:

I've seen quite a few of those things and experienced quite a few of 'em this past year, actually, and wilder things, but for me, it's not about those things and I'm personally impressed by absolutely none of those things.  All of those things simply come with the package of growing in grace and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour, Jesus Christ.  Putting the Written Word first place in one's life in each area of one's anointing, spirit, soul, body, finances, social life, ministry and having everything subject to the Word rather than trying to subject the Word to experience -- we should never try to relate the Word to experience 'cause that'll always distort our knowledge of the truth and will give rise to all of these false suffering doctrines -- every experience must be forced to conform to the Written Word.  The sensationalistic stuff doesn't matter.  None of that matters.  It's all garbage that does nothing for the edification of the spirit or the renewal of the mind.  Those are spiritual manifestations that should be revealing what was going on behind closed doors with the Written Word and our Father who sees in secret is rewarding us openly.  Signs and wonders are for unbelievers.  The Written Word is for believers to do in their personal lives much more than the signs and wonders.

Reply:
Please clarify false suffering doctrine

Answer:
Our sufferings to enter into the Kingdom are in our becoming conformed to His will; to become conformed to His every thought and way -- not sickness, disease, hard times, poverty, etc.  The only suffering that brings the glory is to become a participant in the divine nature.  Our suffering is all of the spiritual persecution that we endure to be conformed to His every promise.  Our suffering is the very velocity that I talked about experiencing a few emails ago, that makes one question all of one's logic in submitting when there are easier, quicker ways to quite a few things in this life.  But then it's the burden of trying to convince Him to bless in one's life what He never intended for one's life in terms of one's job choice, the house He never intended for one to have -- when He likely had bigger in mind, but in His timing and where He had in mind -- or in terms of the marriage that was based upon a roll in the hay, a pregnancy, emotional codependence rather than growth in His Spirit and purposes, etc.  The suffering is that it'll all come by the Written Word or I won't allow it in my life!!  Now, that's suffering, and that's where God gets the glory when "there she is;-)"  It's called building on the rock in Matthew and Luke's Gospel and Luke's Gospel will add the phrase from Christ Jesus that you're digging deep to have that foundation that'll weather any storms that try to come along.  Suffering because of one's former disobedience or for one's own will or whatever -- God gets nothing out of that and that doesn't lead to further and further entrance into the Kingdom.

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